Software

Databases

Birmingham set to miss deadline to make Oracle disaster 'safe and compliant'

Bankrupt council is like 'ship adrift' – lacks financial info in midst of equal pay nightmare


Birmingham City Council — Europe's largest local authority — stands accused of being a "ship adrift in the ocean" after it failed to confirm it could make its troubled Oracle implementation "safe and compliant."

According to auditors, the replacement for the council's SAP-based financial system has gone so badly BCC has not created a financial statement or outturn position for the most recent financial year and cannot provide an up-to-date financial position in the current financial year.

Challenges with the Oracle migration are exacerbating problems with the planning to settle equal pay claims which could amount to £1 billion ($1.21 billion), but which are yet to be resolved. The council effectively declared itself bankrupt last month.

Auditors Grant Thornton called on the council to make its Oracle system "safe and compliant" by the end of November.

However, the council has now responded by saying it "cannot be confident" of concluding all necessary work by that date.

Debating the council's response, leader of Liberal Democrat Group Roger Harmer said: "We're effectively, what we're being told [is] that we're a ship adrift in the ocean and the fog down, and until we clear the fog, we really don't know exactly where we are."

In a council meeting late last week, Grant Thornton West Midlands public sector leader Mark Stocks said the cost of the Oracle project had gone up from about £38 million ($46 million) to a minimum of £100 million ($122 million). Earlier cost estimates were closer to £20 million ($24 million).

However, Stocks said that, though significant, cost overruns were not his "core concern."

"You still do not have a financial reporting system that tells you where your finances are. Given the liabilities that you're going to have to pay in terms of equal pay, you need to understand what your financial position is. There's an urgency to resolving the issues around Oracle.

"You have to get into a state where you're safe and compliant, and that means where your financial systems are providing you with the information that you need without officers having to do workarounds. It's extremely important that that safe and compliant phase is reached as soon as you possibly can," he said.

He told the council earlier this month a manual workaround required to move cash required 30 officers for a significant period. The same task required three people using the earlier SAP system, The Register was told by an insider.

Despite its plan to implement cloud-based Oracle Fusion out of the box, the rollout became heavily dependent on customizations, some of which failed to work as expected. In its most recent progress report on rectifying the Oracle implementation, the council said it was working with Oracle Consulting "to ensure we deliver our 'out of the box' Oracle vision."

However, individuals close to the implementation have told The Register a "vanilla" Oracle implementation cannot perform all the functions its heavily customized SAP system executed successfully. ®

Send us news
32 Comments

In rare bout of generosity, Oracle extends free support for Database 19c

Big Red says it wants to give customers time to upgrade to 23c, which only exists in the cloud for now

City council Oracle megaproject got a code red – and they went live anyway

Poor security and segregation of duties also worry auditors

Techies at Europe's biggest council have 8 weeks to pull finance reports from Oracle system

Auditors issue new deadline following ill-fated migration

Oracle early leader in pointing vectors at business data, say analysts

Big Red’s 'big announcement' strives to bring LLM technique to the business data arena

Oracle's $130M-plus payday still looms on horizon for Larry and Safra

And shareholders – presumably not Ellison who still owns 42% – are still not happy about it

Oracle at Europe's largest council didn't foresee bankruptcy

Auditors unable to sign off accounts partly due to lack of IT controls amid challenging ERP deployment

No customer left behind, SAP's Klein tells users angered by cloud-only decision

Data quality, system complexity and SAP’s future rely on cloud adoption, CEO relays to German-speaking user group

Oracle cloud hardware to reside in Azure datacenters – and Microsoft's good with that

Larry Ellison and Satya Nadella find a common enemy: latency that alows data moving from DBs to AIs

Local governments aren't businesses – so why are they force-fed business software?

Oracle's repeated public sector failures prove a different approach is needed

Oracle disappoints market with revenue miss as Ellison hints at Azure database move

Don't expect 'armies of programmers' to rewrite Cerner, says Larry, talking up low-code app dev platform APEX

Largest local government body in Europe goes under amid Oracle disaster

Authority effectively bankrupt as ERP car crash adds to equal pay liability

Google wants to takes a byte out of Oracle workloads with PostgreSQL migration service

Third-party and bespoke apps most likely candidates for the switch